1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Tonight on Fact or Faked, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Paranormal Files. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Oh my gosh. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000 I can see it moving right around in front of me. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 As soon as I saw it moving really quickly, I said, 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,000 well, this is something different. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Yeah, there it is. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,000 These things are flying all over me. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Ready? Let's go! 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Looks like it's about to crash. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Are you seeing it on the camera right now? 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Oh my gosh. Did you see that? 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Oh my gosh. 14 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 There's a flying saucer. 15 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 I'm getting a series of lights right there. 16 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Oh my gosh. 17 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,000 What the heck is happening? 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Welcome back, everyone. 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Hey, Ben. How's it going? 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 How are you guys doing? 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Good. 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Excited to be here. 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Well, guys, I'm excited to see what you have today. 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,000 But I think we'll start with something that I brought. 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 The Haunted Mansion. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,000 It's called the McPike Mansion. 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 It was built in 1869, 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,000 and it hasn't been lived in the past 60 years. 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Now, a group of ghost hunters led by Renee Cruz 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 went through and videotaped something 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 very strange in the cellar. 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 This is what they got. 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Hey. 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Very strange. 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 This is the wine cellar. 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Now, watch this mist that appears. 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Oh, wow. 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 It's like shift direction. 39 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Well, that's really strange. 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Like the mass seems to ricochet off the wall. 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Yeah, it changes direction, and it keeps doing that. 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,000 It appeared in one room, then went to the next room. 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 I'm thinking maybe if it's a group of people, 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 they could have just been kicking up some dust. 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,000 But when you look at it, dust clouds usually form 46 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,000 in a circular pattern, and then they dissipate immediately. 47 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 This actually seemed like it ricocheted, 48 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 and it stayed in that same formation, 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 and then just bounced somewhere else. 50 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 It could be bugs of some sort. 51 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 I've seen those gnats that kind of congregate 52 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 into a little group, and they just fly around. 53 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 You could definitely replicate it with natural elements, 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 but could you replicate that movement? 55 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000 That's my question. 56 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Can we really replicate that movement? 57 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 I don't think that easily. 58 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 At one point, she walked into the thing, 59 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,000 and she had a thermometer. 60 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 It dropped from them in the 70s all the way down 61 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 to between 8 and 15 degrees. 62 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 And a lot of people say that ghostly entities 63 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,000 could manifest as energy, 64 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 and that could really account for the temperature change. 65 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 This is a closed basement, and if there's no air currents, 66 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000 I don't know what that mist is. 67 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,000 It's reappeared on more than one occasion. 68 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,000 It's been videotaped on more than one occasion. 69 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 People believe that the place is haunted. 70 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 People are taking photographs, 71 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 and figures are showing up in the windows that weren't there. 72 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 There's orbs, there's lights. 73 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Some people have had their clothes tugged on, 74 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 or felt like they were being touched. 75 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,000 I think a haunted mansion is a perfect setting for a ghost hunt. 76 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 From just speaking with Renee, 77 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 she's a professor at a university. 78 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 I think she does seem very credible. 79 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 I think we should put it up on the list 80 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 of things to highly consider today, 81 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,000 and look at the other videos and see what else we have. 82 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 I agree. 83 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,000 All right, guys, so we're all familiar with cross circles, correct? 84 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000 Of course. Right. 85 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Well, this is a little different. 86 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 This takes place a little outside of El Paso, Texas, 87 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,000 on the sandbar of the Rio Grande River. 88 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,000 This is a sand circle. 89 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Look at that. 90 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Wow. 91 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,000 The witness says he was walking around the river, 92 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 and he saw light, 93 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 land on the ground, and then take off. 94 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 He went and checked it out, and this was the result. 95 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 You can't even see any footprints. 96 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 I mean, we're talking about sand, 97 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,000 so if someone walked over and actually put that there, 98 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,000 it would be difficult to cover up the footprints later. 99 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 You're right. That is huge. 100 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 And it's really, really deep in the sand, 101 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 so it's not like someone can go out and do this in a night. 102 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 You know, growing up in Texas, 103 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 I would always hear about these UFO sightings out in West Texas, 104 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,000 and sure enough, this is in far West Texas. 105 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 As you know, one of my interests is seriology, 106 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 and in doing a lot of research, 107 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 I actually know about this case. 108 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 And a few weeks after this was reported, 109 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,000 a local artist named Michael Alfred came out and said, 110 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 it was an art project. 111 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 No kidding. 112 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,000 What happened to the guy's story? 113 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 He said he saw a light touchdown. 114 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Was it an accident, or he's building upon the legend? 115 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 He wanted his friends to come out and see it. 116 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Who knows? 117 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 I'm kind of disappointed, I hate to say it, 118 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 because I like the case. 119 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Me too. 120 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,000 I'm hoping it was something else. 121 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Bill, I hear that you have a really interesting case. 122 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 I do have a good one. 123 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 I have a triangle UFO, 124 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 but this isn't just like a little fuzzy image. 125 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 This is a really clear. 126 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Why don't you roll it and take a look at it? 127 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 This is a really good one. 128 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Okay. 129 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Okay. 130 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Oh, I love it already. 131 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Look at this thing. 132 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Five lights on that? 133 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Yeah, it's going pretty fast. 134 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 This was shot by Pablo Mejia, 135 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 December 5th, 2008, 136 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 in his backyard in Fremont, California. 137 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,000 For a sky watcher, 138 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 he's able to identify a lot of crafts, 139 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 and he wasn't about to identify this. 140 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Did he hear any noise coming from the craft? 141 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Didn't hear any noise. 142 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,000 Wow. 143 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Now, Bill, correct me if I'm wrong, 144 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,000 but did I see a commercial airliner also in the video? 145 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 That's four to the pier speed. 146 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Fremont is a very busy airspace. 147 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,000 There's a lot of airports nearby. 148 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Any military bases? 149 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Travis Air Force Base, 150 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,000 which is one of the busiest ones in the country, 151 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 is nearby as well. 152 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,000 And another one, 153 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 which I find really interesting, 154 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 is the NASA Ames Research Center. 155 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Do you want to see something even more compelling? 156 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Take a look at the next clip. 157 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,000 The video has now been clarified. 158 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Hmm, gets better? 159 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Oh, wow. 160 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Look at that. 161 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Whoa. 162 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,000 The speed on this thing is incredible. 163 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,000 I know. 164 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Look at it. 165 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Pass all those markers. 166 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Those are stars. 167 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,000 They're still. 168 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Guys, I'm hyped about this one. 169 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,000 I really like it. 170 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,000 It's got good video. 171 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,000 It's got an available witness. 172 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 I say we put this one up there also on the list. 173 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Jai-Yel, that leaves us with you. 174 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 You have the final case today? 175 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Yes. 176 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 I have a really fun case. 177 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 It comes from Virginia. 178 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 It happened in 09, so it's pretty fresh. 179 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,000 And I am bringing Bigfoot back. 180 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,000 A guy named Eric Cunningham was out in the woods, 181 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 and he caught sight of something that actually turned 182 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,000 a lot of the heads in the cryptozoology world 183 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 and was believed to be genuine. 184 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,000 OK. 185 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Oh, look, look, look. 186 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Oh, you can see it in the back? 187 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Whoa. 188 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Yeah. 189 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Whoa. 190 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 See? 191 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,000 OK. 192 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Well, I love that area, that region in the south, 193 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 where there's a lot of folklore that actually speaks 194 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 about a creature like Bigfoot being in the area 195 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,000 for hundreds and hundreds of years. 196 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Well, that's why I love the case, 197 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 because usually the Bigfoot sightings 198 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 are in the northwestern region. 199 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,000 But, you know, it was interesting, 200 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,000 because this is in Virginia, 201 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,000 and lately, you know, people have been talking 202 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,000 about seeing them in Tennessee and Georgia. 203 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 I'm curious about this video, 204 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 because it's so far back. 205 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 You can't really see any detail. 206 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,000 Are we seeing hair? 207 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 I actually have a clarified version, 208 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,000 so I think we should take a look at that 209 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 before we go any further. 210 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 OK. 211 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Let's go any further. 212 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 So the red tint that we're looking at here, guys, 213 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 is chroma separation. 214 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 I've done this because it actually boosts up 215 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,000 the dark colors into red. 216 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 So that way, it's a more defined figure. 217 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 But maybe that's Hunter's camouflage out. 218 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Yeah, there's something on the top. 219 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Like a baseball hat. 220 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 That seems too staged to me. 221 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 You think so? 222 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Yeah. 223 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 It doesn't seem to be scared by the ATV at all. 224 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,000 I'd like to pursue a Bigfoot case. 225 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,000 I'm not sure if this is the one though. 226 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 How does this stack up with those other cases 227 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,000 we've seen today? 228 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000 This doesn't even compare. 229 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Personally, I think McPike just has 230 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 so many elements to it. 231 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,000 I would love to go. 232 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 McPike's my favorite today. 233 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Yes. 234 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,000 I like chroma. 235 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,000 This video is really compelling. 236 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 We can't explain it, and there's a possibility 237 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 of it being a hoax, it being military, 238 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,000 being a weather balloon, 239 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 or it actually being extraterrestrial. 240 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,000 We've never had a video that had all of those factors 241 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,000 and an incredible witness. 242 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Yeah, I would love to go to Fremont. 243 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Obviously, I want to do that case. 244 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 So McPike and Fremont. 245 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 So Gael, Larry, and Bill, 246 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,000 you guys want to do Fremont? 247 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Yes, indeed. 248 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 And she lawned myself into Austin 249 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 and will go to McPike, Mike. 250 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Yeah, let's do this. 251 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Yes. 252 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,000 All right. 253 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Okay, let's get to it. 254 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Out in Illinois, guys. 255 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 It's one of the most haunted cities in America. 256 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Not only that, but one of the most haunted spots 257 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 in America is located right here. 258 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,000 McPike mansion. 259 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Henry McPike raised his family there. 260 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 He had at least two wives, a few children. 261 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:35,000 And it sounds like a lot of strange things are going on now. 262 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Wow. 263 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 When I think of a haunted mansion, 264 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 this is exactly how I pictured it. 265 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Definitely. 266 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 I mean, the architecture is phenomenal. 267 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 It has three floors. 268 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 And all of these great windows. 269 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Welcome to McPike mansion. 270 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Ben, nice to meet you. 271 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Hi, I'm Cheela. 272 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Thanks for having us. 273 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Pleasure. 274 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Nice to meet you too, Austin. 275 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 So is Henry at home? 276 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,000 I think he is. 277 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Do you mind giving us a tour? 278 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 I don't mind at all. 279 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Excellent. 280 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:30,000 I'm going to take you guys into the room that's known as the Sad Room. 281 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 This was Henry's room. 282 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Are you all right? 283 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,000 You doing OK? 284 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Yeah, I'm fine. 285 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,000 I just got my head. 286 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,000 I kind of like everything. 287 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,000 What kind of day glow? 288 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Kind of real quick. 289 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 What Austin's feeling right now with a dizzy-like headedness? 290 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Has anyone else come into this room and felt that way? 291 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,000 My friend Sue Brown, when she comes in here, 292 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 that happens frequently for her when she comes up here. 293 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 You all right to finish the tour? 294 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Good. 295 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 All right, cool. 296 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Come on, we'll go into this room way in the back. 297 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,000 As far as the deja vu, once my friend Sue and I were standing at that window 298 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 kind of looking out, talking. 299 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,000 And I just felt like I had done that with her before. 300 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Are you guys ready to go to the cellar? 301 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Coming up on Fact or Faked Paranormal Files. 302 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 They are flying and crawling all over me. 303 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Are you seeing anything on the camera right now? 304 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Oh my gosh, did you see that? 305 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Yeah, there it is. 306 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Hey, it looks like it's about to crash. 307 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Alton, Illinois. 308 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Home of the famous McPike mansion. 309 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 We're really hoping that we can get out there 310 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,000 and replicate something like we saw in the video. 311 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Are you guys ready to go to the cellar? 312 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 This is the Baltic Wine Cellar. 313 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Wow, so this is where Renee Cruz's video was shot. 314 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 The mist started out there in the hallway. 315 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Oh my gosh, okay. I'm recording. I am on record. 316 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,000 I was in the hall. She walked into it and I'm thinking in my head. 317 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 Wow, this is a hatch of my day. It's very humid. It's 100 degrees. 318 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 What are we all excited about here? 319 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,000 But this mist moved from place to place. 320 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Disappointed, reappeared. 321 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,000 It wasn't just a little bitty mist. 322 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 It was a big mist. 323 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,000 It was really something else. 324 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,000 We got a lot to cover and you gave us a whole lot of information. 325 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Alright, thank you, Mike. 326 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Thank you. 327 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Sharon is a really nice lady and she took a lot of time explaining to us 328 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 the history of this mansion. 329 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,000 We're hoping that while we're here, we can actually find some scientific proof 330 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,000 or evidence of our own to go along with those stories. 331 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 I brought the anemometer. 332 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Because you guys know one of the prevalent theories was that there perhaps was some air current 333 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,000 or something was picking up the dust and stuff here. 334 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,000 So I think I'm just going to do a quick reading and see if we're getting any air flow currents. 335 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 Sounds good. 336 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Okay, I'm not seeing any air current flow as of yet, 337 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,000 but what I'm thinking is that if you look on the walls here, 338 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,000 this masonry work is really old. 339 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,000 I mean, look at that stuff. It crumbles right off. 340 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 These little fine granules. 341 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Plus the dirt that we're standing on, I think we have our dust. 342 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Well, I think us trying to replicate it on our own, using perfect conditions, 343 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,000 lets us know with the elements that are here if it could have been a natural occurrence. 344 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Alright, let's do it. 345 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Alright guys, let's get this dust cloud experiment started. 346 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Well, you've got the camera and stuff. 347 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:47,000 And Austin, I think good place for you is to set up with our shop vac. 348 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 This shop vac will help give us the ideal air flow. 349 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:55,000 We can take this fuller's earth and lay it right across the top. 350 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,000 The reason we're using fuller's earth is because it's very dry. 351 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:05,000 We're trying to create the most ideal conditions to see if we can create a dust cloud. 352 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,000 See how close we can get to the actual video. 353 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Well, I'm down here guys with the camera. 354 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,000 I'm ready to go. 355 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:21,000 I double checked the footage and the framing that I have right here is exactly what I see in the footage from Renee Cruz. 356 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Okay, lights off. 357 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Then three, two, one. 358 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Oh, there it is. I see the sword. 359 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Wow, that is really starting to look like the video, isn't it? 360 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Okay, lights shut off for a second. Come down here. 361 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,000 How did it look? 362 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 I didn't honestly expect that much movement. 363 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000 I didn't either. 364 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:13,000 I really didn't expect it to be able to come in and almost make a circular pattern very similar to what we saw in the video. 365 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,000 You already did notice also in the original video there were five different people. 366 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 And they're all moving around. 367 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Exactly. 368 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,000 The one thing that really is still bothering me about this though is look, we just shut that off. 369 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,000 It's been a little while now and it's still hanging in the air. 370 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,000 And what we saw in the video was more concentrated. 371 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 And it moves somewhat like a living organism would. 372 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,000 And I know that we talked about one of the big theories being that it's a swarm of insects. 373 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:56,000 So what I've gone ahead and done is scheduled a studio offsite so that we can have a controlled experiment in a controlled environment 374 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:01,000 and see if we can recreate what that video looks like using living organisms. 375 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,000 So the way that we've designed the insect test is that we've got 10,000 insects. 376 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,000 We've set up a plexiglass environment that is 8 feet by 6 feet by 6 feet. 377 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:31,000 I've gone ahead and thrown in a background that looks very similar to the brick cellar background. 378 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000 I have my IR camera set up. 379 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:39,000 We're going to throw the insects in there, shut off the lights, and then we're going to stimulate their movement with a flashlight. 380 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,000 That will also give us that same flashlight ery movement just like we missed in the video did. 381 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Alright Ben, you ready? 382 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Yep. 383 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Alright, in three, two, one, release. 384 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Oh my gosh, look at them. 385 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,000 That is insane. 386 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,000 This is crazy guys. 387 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 I mean they're really swarming. 388 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,000 You know what, they are swarming. 389 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,000 But in the video it all moves one direction at the same time and then changes direction at the same time. 390 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,000 And these are more of like a side fan kind of a tornado effect. 391 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 They're moving as a mass but at different angles all the time. 392 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Check it out. 393 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Look at this. 394 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Look at that. 395 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,000 There is someone walking through this form of insects. 396 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,000 So that probably has an effect on their movement. 397 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 We need some human interaction. 398 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000 I think so. 399 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Yep. 400 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 One of us has to go inside the box. 401 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Austin? 402 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Austin? 403 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,000 Oh my god, okay. 404 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000 I'm recording. 405 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 I am on record. 406 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Yeah, oh boy, you can really see it now. 407 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,000 In the original video, amongst the mist, there was human interaction. 408 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,000 So, in the name of science, I'm about to take one for the team. 409 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Alright Austin. 410 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,000 Oh yeah. 411 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Oh my god. 412 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Let's hit the lights. 413 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Ready? 414 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Lights off. 415 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Okay, are you seeing any swarms right in front of you there? 416 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 No. 417 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,000 The footage I'm getting from my angle looks absolutely nothing like the original footage. 418 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Definitely not swarming in the same way. 419 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Not following the same flight pattern. 420 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,000 The human interaction does not really affect how they're moving. 421 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,000 You can tell these things are flying and crawling all over me. 422 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,000 As much fun as this is, I think it's time to move on to the next experiment. 423 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 I'm out. 424 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,000 Austin just came out of the box that we built and for a second there, when he got in there, 425 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,000 there was a movement where we thought insects might form a mass very similar to the mist, 426 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 but then they just started landing on him. 427 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,000 And once we shut off the lights in the environment, they just clung to the walls. 428 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 They just stopped moving. 429 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,000 So we have to head back to the mansion and see what else we can figure out. 430 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:34,000 So one of the prevalent theories is that this phenomenon is caused by a fog or mist. 431 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Fogs are generally created when the ambient temperature is brought to within four or five degrees of what's called the dew point. 432 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:52,000 In order to help us get there, we're going to use the air conditioner to bring down the temperature and at some point kick in a humidifier. 433 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,000 And hopefully we'll see a concentrated fog that will look something like we saw in the video. 434 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,000 The air conditioner is set up, ready to pump this baby full of cold air. 435 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 I have the humidifier over here and that's going to give us our warm air. 436 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Okay, three, two, one, go. 437 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 All right. 438 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000 That is misty looking. 439 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,000 Okay, we're definitely getting some. 440 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,000 I see why someone would say this thing moved in an organic matter and followed someone. 441 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Ben, why don't you walk through it and see what happens to the fog? 442 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,000 How's it looking? 443 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 It doesn't look anything like the video. 444 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Look at it, it just lingers in here. 445 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,000 In the video, it dissipates and almost goes. 446 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,000 So the movement, I think we could actually do a fairly decent job replicating. 447 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,000 It's the fact that it just lingers afterwards that that's what confuses me. 448 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,000 I think that's the major shortcoming of this experiment is that we're getting a movement, we're getting a swirl, 449 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:13,000 but it's just not disappearing, it's lingering in the air and it's not quite like a video. 450 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,000 I think it's probably time we start looking to see if this could be something paranormal. 451 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Would you guys be interested in staying overnight here and doing a little investigating? 452 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Let's clear this place out. 453 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000 According to what Renee said, there seems to be activity on every single level of this house, 454 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,000 so it's important that we set up our cameras on every single level as well, just in case. 455 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,000 I think most importantly we got to get camera one in the cellar. 456 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Sounds good. Stay safe out there. 457 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,000 We've gone ahead and set up cameras on every single floor of the house. 458 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Right here is the cellar. 459 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,000 This is the hotspot of the entire house. A lot of activity has been recorded right here. 460 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Here's the first floor. This is covering the parlor and the rest of the home. 461 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,000 This is the second floor. 462 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,000 And this is the third floor. 463 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,000 Okay Austin, we're on the first floor. How about you go up to the fourth? 464 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Perfect. 465 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 And work your way down and work my way up. 466 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Yep. 467 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Meet in the middle. 468 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Perfect. 469 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Call me, you should find anything. 470 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Alright. 471 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Alright. 472 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Wow. 473 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,000 This place is just on the verge of falling apart. 474 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Alright, I'm at the top floor of the McPike mansion. 475 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,000 What I'm going to be doing, I'm going to be a visual and audible check in every room as I sweep. 476 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000 I'm going to be checking any spikes in the magnetic field. 477 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:12,000 I'm going to be looking for any fluctuations in temperature as well as I'm going to be taking a picture in every room 478 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,000 because I want to see if I can capture anything that I possibly missed or couldn't see with the naked eye. 479 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,000 This is device that measures electromagnetic fields and temperatures. 480 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:45,000 Now, if somebody's here, but being on this wood, can you replicate the sound to let us know that you're here? 481 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Take a look at this. 482 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Look at the temperature readings. 483 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,000 It was going from a constant 76 to a thousand 100 degrees. 484 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000 I've never had that problem with this meter before. 485 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Awesome. 486 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Awesome to see you. 487 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Go for a cheelan. 488 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 I just heard something in the back room. 489 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,000 It's not like a whisper. 490 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,000 I couldn't make anything out. 491 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Are you seeing anything on the camera right now? 492 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Oh my gosh. 493 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Did you see that? 494 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 I'll just let you know. 495 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Okay. 496 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,000 They've gone ahead and set up cameras on every single floor of the house. 497 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000 This is the hotspot of the entire house. 498 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 A lot of activity has been recorded right here. 499 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 I just heard something in the back room. 500 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Are you seeing anything on the camera right now? 501 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Oh my gosh, did you see that? 502 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,000 So guys, how's Fremont? 503 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,000 Fremont was great. 504 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Fremont looked really good. 505 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,000 Yeah. 506 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,000 What about McPike? 507 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Well, McPike, if you remember in the video... 508 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,000 I can see it changing directions. 509 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000 This mass seemed to have a certain motion about the engine. 510 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:56,000 That's what we really tried to focus our experiments on. 511 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:03,000 It's an old, dusty, condemned house, so we decided to see if this mass could have been swirling dust. 512 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,000 We actually had to use a shop back and put it in reverse to blow things. 513 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,000 So it's very noisy. 514 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,000 And it actually dissipated equally throughout the whole room. 515 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000 It was very noisy. 516 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:18,000 So it's very noisy. 517 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:26,000 But speaking with the eyewitness, she actually said that she saw the fog appear as one entity, not dissipate through a room. 518 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:36,000 So in order to test the next theory, I had the privilege of getting in a giant box filled with gnats and flies by the thousands. 519 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,000 And believe me, it looked absolutely nothing like the video. 520 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,000 They just don't swarm. All they really do is land on you and annoy the heck out of you. 521 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,000 So you couldn't get them to move in any unified direction? 522 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000 I had no control over the X-X at all. 523 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,000 So the next thing that we thought about was what if it's another natural occurrence? What if it's mist? 524 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:06,000 The big issue was, again, we couldn't keep it as one entity. We couldn't keep it as one ball of mass. 525 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:15,000 So that left us wanting to explore more the paranormal explanation. 526 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000 So we did a night investigation. 527 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,000 We put an IR cam in the cellar, and that's where the activity took place. 528 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000 And it actually caught some really interesting activity. 529 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:38,000 So of course I went in and investigated, see what was there, and the entire cellar was empty, guys. Completely empty. 530 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000 So there was nothing that could have gone in front of that lens. 531 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:46,000 But again, this is an old, dilapidated mansion. It could have possibly have been just an insect. 532 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:54,000 After we had our own kind of strange experiences, Austin and I went back to EVPs. 533 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:01,000 During the EVP, I asked the question, if someone is here, can you replicate the sound? 534 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,000 And I give three taps. Now listen very closely what you hear afterward. 535 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:16,000 If I bang on this wood, this table that was sitting here, can you replicate the sound? 536 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Yeah? Yeah? Wow. 537 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,000 You hear it very faintly? 538 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000 No, it was clear. 539 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000 And in the end there was two, possibly three taps. 540 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 That's really good. That is cool. 541 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:39,000 I think you guys got great EVPs. As for the experiments, I mean you weren't able to replicate it exactly, but it was very similar. 542 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:45,000 I gotta tell you, I was there, and I saw the dust in the cellar. I think it was really dust. 543 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:54,000 We couldn't replicate the video, so I'm not saying it is not paranormal fog, but I do think with the perfect conditions it still could have been dust. 544 00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Even if it was, I think we were really pretty successful in picking up at least some type of possible paranormal evidence. 545 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:06,000 The fact that I walked in, I felt like I was gonna pass out, Chilan's seeing stuff. 546 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:17,000 Others have been through the mansion on tours and investigations and have their own evidence, which leads me to believe it's quite possible that McPike Mansion does have paranormal activity. 547 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Well done, guys. 548 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Bill, tell us about Fremont. How'd it go for you guys? 549 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Well, the Fremont UFO case was great. I have a triangle UFO. 550 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000 But instead of like a little fuzzy image, this thing's pretty clear. 551 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,000 We got some really good results. Check this out. 552 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Alright, guys, so we've made it to Fremont. We're in Northern California, and this is the exact area where this UFO was seen. 553 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Pablo Mejia, who was filming in his backyard, captured it on video. 554 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Pablo's really into UFOs. He's been trying to catch one for a while. On this particular night, he was able to find something. 555 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:20,000 We've got a lot of experiments that we can run, but first we have an eyewitness that really believes in the footage that he's captured. 556 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000 Pablo, hey, how you doing on Bill? 557 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,000 Good, hi. 558 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Nice to meet you. 559 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Nice to meet you. 560 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Piss. Quite a video you got there. We're really excited to talk to you about it. 561 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Can you show us where you shot this video? 562 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Sure. Come on back. 563 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000 So tell us about the night you shot the video. 564 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Sure. I went out about ten minutes, and then I saw a commercial airplane over there, and I kind of zoomed in on it, and then I saw the craft flying above it, going straight that way. 565 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,000 And what you saw definitely looked very different than a normal airplane. 566 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000 That's right. As soon as I saw it moving really quickly, I said, well, this is something different. 567 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,000 It was going a lot faster than a commercial plane and a private plane too. 568 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000 Did you hear anything when you saw it? 569 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:23,000 Nope. I only heard the commercial plane, and then as it passed, I saw that other craft, and it didn't make any sounds. 570 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Do you think that this is very well could be a UFO from extraterrestrial? 571 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000 No, it's a possibility. 572 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000 So tell us about the setup this rig that you got on your camera. 573 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:43,000 It's just a regular consumer camcorder, and then I attached a night vision molecular to it, and I have a third generation which lets you see the stars pretty well. 574 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Do you mind if we borrow the gear you use, your rig? 575 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,000 Sure. 576 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Well, thank you so much, Pablo. We're going to go do some experiments right now. 577 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000 You're welcome. 578 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:01,000 So we've got Pablo's camera, and so now we're going to head over to the testing location, and we're going to put some of these things we have into motion. 579 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000 Alright, guys, well... 580 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Looks like a good spot. 581 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Yeah, it is a good spot. 582 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Open field, away from everything. 583 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000 That's right. Let's get to it. 584 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000 Alright. 585 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000 So guys, we're at the first experiment. 586 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,000 The popular theory is that maybe it's a delta wing shaped kite. 587 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Really? 588 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000 It says five LEDs attached to it. 589 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,000 Okay. 590 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:38,000 So it seems simple enough to attach them to the five points, run it up, shoot it with the video, and see what it looks like. 591 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:45,000 You know what's interesting, guys, is that we're not going to have any reference point to employ force perspective. 592 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:52,000 So can we take something this small and make it look like something really large that's high up in the sky the way Pablo's video did? 593 00:33:54,000 --> 00:34:01,000 It could be something very large and far away, but who's to say that it's not something smaller and really close? 594 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:06,000 We've only got 30,000 feet, but maybe had a couple of dozen feet. We'll see what it looks like then. 595 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 So why don't we start our LEDs? 596 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000 There you go, Larry. That's for you. 597 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Looking good, guys. 598 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,000 How far back do you want me to go? 599 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Oh, I'll tell you when. Just keep going. 600 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000 Okay. 601 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Alright, Bill, you stay right there. Me and Gael are going to walk back a little bit, let some string out, and I'll let you know when to let go. 602 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,000 Okay. 603 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,000 You better hurry. 604 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,000 It wants to fly. 605 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Alright, ready? Let's go. 606 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Oh my gosh. 607 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:55,000 The popular theory is that maybe it's a delta wing shaped kite. It wants to fly. 608 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,000 Alright, ready? 609 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Flick up. 610 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:16,000 It looks good here. I can see all the lights in the triangular formation, but I can also see the kite. 611 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:25,000 The other thing is that it's just floating in one area, and we kind of need it to go from one end of frame to the other. 612 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,000 That's true. 613 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:35,000 In the original footage, we had an object that was zooming through the sky, and it was going from one side of the frame to the other. 614 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000 With the kite, we're just not getting that. 615 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000 Larry, can you run a bit? 616 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Okay. 617 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000 One, two, three, go, Larry. 618 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,000 It's kind of unstable. It's not rigid enough. 619 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Yeah, it looks like it's about to crash. 620 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Yeah, I lost control of the wind gusts. They're unpredictable. 621 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,000 Well, there goes our delta wing. 622 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000 I mean, when I got it up, there was a consistent wind. 623 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:16,000 After I got it up in the air, the wind would just disappear, and it would start to fall, and I would have to run with it. 624 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,000 And so I just couldn't keep running, and finally I stopped, and when there was no wind, it would fall. 625 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000 I wish it would have worked, but it was just flying too erratic. 626 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,000 It's just so susceptible to the winds. 627 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000 I agree. I think it's time we bust out the big guns. You guys wait here. 628 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,000 The big guns. 629 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,000 The big guns. 630 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000 I think this is going to do the trick. 631 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,000 I've been really excited about this one, actually. 632 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 It's going to go a lot faster. 633 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,000 It's not going to be as erratic. 634 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,000 This thing can go up to 80 miles an hour. 635 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,000 Wow. 636 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Really? 637 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Really 80? 638 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000 80 miles an hour. It has a distance of about five miles. 639 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,000 What's the altitude? 640 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,000 We can get it to about 400 feet, but we're not going to have to go that high because the lights are so close together. 641 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,000 We're not going to have to take it that high. 642 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000 I think the biggest advantage of this is just going to be able to have that control. 643 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,000 Can we generate a launch? 644 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,000 Yeah, let's get it ready. 645 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,000 All right, guys, here we are to launch pad. 646 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,000 So, Bill, I'm actually going to have you toss it in the air for me. 647 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,000 You know, I'm not too comfortable with it. 648 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,000 One shot to get this right. 649 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Yeah, if it drops, it could break and our experiment's over. 650 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,000 There's no back-back. 651 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,000 Why don't you guys step back and I'm going to do my best here. 652 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,000 I'm going to get a vantage point for all of this. 653 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000 Over there? Okay. 654 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,000 Are you ready? 655 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Three, two, one. 656 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,000 It worked. 657 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,000 It's looking pretty good, guys. 658 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,000 It could break out some of the definition. 659 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Look at it. You can see the lights. 660 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000 The only difficult thing is actually keeping it in frame. 661 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000 Well, and you know what? You can also hear it. 662 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000 But in the Pablo's video, there is no sound. 663 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000 What if you got it to a higher altitude? 664 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000 All right, I'm going to bring it back around. 665 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,000 Hey, Larry, can you do me a favor and take it further out in the field? 666 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Okay, yeah. 667 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,000 I'm going to go further. 668 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,000 In Pablo's video, it didn't seem to have that size variation. 669 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,000 I just moved it closer and further. 670 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,000 You make me think that the object in Pablo's video is actually a lot larger than this. 671 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Nice job. 672 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,000 That was pretty good. 673 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Yeah, yeah. 674 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,000 You did a great job keeping it in frame. 675 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,000 Thanks. 676 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000 I thought that looked pretty good. 677 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,000 The only problem with the RC is that when it was dipping left and right, 678 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000 we would lose the triangular formation that we were looking for. 679 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,000 Now, the kite maintained the delta shape. 680 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,000 But the problem was it was just being buffeted by the wind. 681 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000 So the LEDs were just sort of bouncing around. 682 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,000 With the airplane, it's hard to keep in frame of the camera because it's so low, moving so fast. 683 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,000 So we've got to think bigger, more control, higher altitude. 684 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000 No noise. 685 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000 No noise. 686 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000 All right, guys. 687 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,000 What we're going to do is we're going to attach these LED clusters, one at the nose, 688 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,000 two on the crossbar, and two on the back of the ribs of this hang glider. 689 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000 This is going to create the V-formation that we're seeing in the video. 690 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,000 You know what I'm excited about is that these hang gliders are really smooth when they fly in the sky, 691 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000 and they're silent, which are two key things that we're looking for. 692 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,000 It's going to be smooth. 693 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,000 It's bigger. 694 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,000 And I think we're going to be able to get it up to altitude in which we were able to get the kite in the airplane. 695 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,000 All right, guys. 696 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,000 I think all we have to do now is just get this baby airborne. 697 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000 Yeah. 698 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Actually, we're not going to be able to launch it from here. 699 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,000 So I'm going to go with our pilot Dave and launch from down here with a tow line. 700 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,000 And you guys stay back here with Pablo's camera and shoot in the air, 701 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,000 and we can see what it finally looks like. 702 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000 All right, just radio us and let us know when he's ready. 703 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Awesome. 704 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000 All right, let's go. 705 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,000 All right, Bill, Jial. 706 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000 We are ready when you are. 707 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000 We're in position. 708 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,000 All set, ready to go. 709 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Okay, we're going to be rolling. 710 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000 All right, we're ready to launch. 711 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:48,000 Five, four, three, two, one. 712 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,000 All right, he's up there. 713 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000 Look at that. 714 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000 Is it showing up? 715 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Yeah, there it is. 716 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,000 Wow. 717 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,000 Look at that. 718 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,000 Let go. 719 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000 After the kite. 720 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000 It looks like it's about to crash. 721 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:20,000 And after the motorized airplane, honestly, I think the hang wider is going to be the closest. 722 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000 It's going to be smooth. 723 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,000 It's bigger. 724 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000 All right, we're ready to launch. 725 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:32,000 Five, four, three, two, one. 726 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,000 All right, he's up there. 727 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,000 Look at it. 728 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000 Is it showing up? 729 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000 Yeah, there it is. 730 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,000 So there were a lot of ideas on how we could replicate Pablo's video. 731 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,000 One of them was to simply attach LEDs to the bottom of a kite. 732 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000 But once Larry started to move with it, the wind became a problem. 733 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000 The wind was so crazy that night. 734 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000 It was shaking the kite everywhere. 735 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000 It was hard to keep up. 736 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000 And eventually it crashed and fell into the ground. 737 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Obviously the kite has no propulsion system of its own. 738 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000 So it's really just wind driven. 739 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:16,000 But despite the fact that we have a lot of wind, you still couldn't get the kite to move fast enough. 740 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:25,000 So after having done this experiment, we decided we need something with a little more speed, which actually led to our RC jet. 741 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,000 Thinking about the jet, we certainly had the speed, but almost too much speed. 742 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,000 So every time it would tilt, it would lose the delta formation that you see. 743 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,000 The other problem we have with the RC jet is that it was loud. 744 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,000 And Pablo stated that when he shot the original video, he heard nothing. 745 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,000 It was completely silent. 746 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000 So we had to have a silent craft. 747 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,000 So that led to a human piloted hand glider experiment. 748 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,000 Oh, that's exact. 749 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Look at that, yeah. 750 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,000 That looks like smooth. 751 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000 It was matching fairly close to the original video. 752 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000 We're quite happy with that. 753 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,000 It's my opinion that this is likely what we're seeing in Pablo's original video. 754 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000 And there are nighttime hand gliders that do this very thing. 755 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,000 They go hand gliding at night. 756 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000 They do attach LEDs to their kite. 757 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000 And that is for safety reasons. 758 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000 So they're like anti-collision lights, basically. 759 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,000 You guys nailed it. 760 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,000 Yeah, this is a hand glider. 761 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,000 Great job, guys.